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Thursday, July 21, 2011

Ye Shall Not Surely Die Part 4 - Unbiblical Christianity



Once Saved Forever Saved? The bible says you lie!





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The doctrine of eternal security goes so far as to say that once a person has been saved, by sincerely saying the sinner’s prayer, he cannot lose his salvation ever.  Even if he denies Jesus or continues to commit adultery blatantly or practice sorcery, God is able to keep him by his power of salvation.  And those that the Father gives to Jesus, Jesus says nobody can snatch any out of his hands.  Really?  Let’s look at the bible for examples.

1)      Judas

Judas was definitely a believer.  Judas was handpicked by Jesus to be one of the 12 apostles.  Together with the others, he was anointed with the power and sent out by Jesus twice to preach the gospel of the Kingdom.  He was able to perform healing and cast out demons by the power of the Holy Spirit. 

The bible clearly says that Judas has been lost, even though he was given to Jesus by the Father

Joh 17:12  While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled

Does this not clearly show that once a person denies Jesus, he has removed himself out of the will of the Father, and off to hell he goes. A believer can turn into a son of perdition! This is by far the clearest example of a believer, an apostle even going to hell.

2)      Hermeneus, Alexander and Philetus

These 3 were very probably teachers and leaders.  And they were leading people astray with their words, vain babblings and teachings to the extent of shipwrecking their faith.  Let see these few verses :

2Ti 2:17  And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 2Ti 2:18  Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.  2Ti 2:19  Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

1Ti 1:18  This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;  1Ti 1:19  Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:  1Ti 1:20  Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Weren’t they believers?  They were!  And does Paul sound like he is saying they can still be saved despite their erroneous ways and blasphemy? Surely being “delivered unto Satan”  can only mean condemnation.

3)      Diotrephes

Diotrephes was a believer and a church leader of whom we do not know much, save for what John tells us about him:

3Jn 1:9  I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. 3Jn 1:10  Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.  3Jn 1:11  Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

John urges the other believers not to follow the evil ways of Diotrephes because he that is evil has not seen God.  Again, does it look like Diotrephes is going to heaven, unless he turns away from evil?

4)      Ananias and Saphira

Luke relates to us the record of this husband and wife couple in Acts 5, where they sold their property and brought the money to the feet of Peter, to support church life.  So, they were definitely believers, committed enough to sell their property and give the money for the benefit of believers.  However, they did not give truthfully, pretending that they had given all when in fact they had kept back a part of the money.  For this sin of deceit, they died at the words of Peter who said they had lied to God. 

Shall we argue that they are going to heaven to be with God?

And while on these 2 persons, I cannot resist the opportunity to mention that the false teacher Joseph Prince definitely has not read Acts chapter 5.  On page 57 & 58 of his book “Destined to Reign”, he revealed his ignorance of the bible by asking the reader to prove that God had ever punished any New Testament believer who is under grace.  Big names often speak nonsense and write nonsense; which is why I always tell people “Stop reading books that explain the bible, read the bible!”

5)      Saul

1Sa 11:6   tells us the Spirit of God had came upon Saul.  And 1 Samuel 16:14 tell us that the Spirit of God departed from Saul. A person anointed by the Holy Spirit can still lose the anointing and the Spirit leaves him!

Do you think Saul is in heaven after showing himself so disobedient to God?

We can still talk about Adam and Eve, and their son Cain.  In the same vein, they were worshippers of the great Creator God.  The bible clearly says that death came through Adam.  If Adam’s death is purely bodily death, does Jesus need to come to die and live that all may live?

How do the “Once Saved Forever Saved” proponents respond to the above?  There are 2 common ways, the most popular of which is:

“Oh, these people were not really saved from the beginning”, and the other is to ignore these scriptures and continue to push to you their “proof verses”.

As I often countered the Jehovah Witnesses who come to my house, “If you can only push your explanation for your proof verses, while you are being unable to explain, or choose to ignore the other scriptural verses that run counter to your proof verses, something is surely wrong!  Either your explanation is wrong or the bible is self-contradictory, inconsistent and unreliable!”

Jesus made it very clear when He explained:

Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.  Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?  Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These people call Jesus “Lord”, meaning they are believers and followers. These people were empowered by the Holy Spirit to perform miracles and signs and wonders.  These believers were expecting to be received by Jesus to enter into the Kingdom of God, but were rejected.

So,  do you still want to hold on to your belief that you can be a sinful, lying, disobedient, unrepentant follower of Jesus and still enter into his Kingdom?

And did not Jesus say:

Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free


                                                     

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Benny Hinn's Shenanigans 3


15 June 2011

Father God Has A Body !! ???
Doesn't Benny Hinn Read The Bible?


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Part 2 : Benny Hinn says we are gods



It is very easy to offend Christians.  All you have to do is to point out some mistakes in the preachers that they idolized, and they get ruffled on the inside and try to offer up the "you must not judge" defense of the idol to put you down; failing which, they will even attack you by calling you "spiritually proud".  And Benny Hinn is a idol-worshiped by many Christians.  But as Paul said in Gal 4:16  "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?".   Yes, you speak the truth and your Christian "brother" treats you as an enemy.  This is because you have upset his comfort zone; to him, you are trying to crack up the image of his idol.  The excuse against you will be that you are causing division and enmity within the body of Christ... to which I would retort "Would the Lord want unity built on falsehood and lies, or truth out of the divisions?".  We are called by the bible to "rightly divide the truth", remember?

Now listen to this Benny Hinn falsehood, and meditate on what the bible actually says on the subject:



Well, the Mormons also teach that Father God has a body.  In their "Doctrine and Covenants" it is stated, "God is a glorified and perfected man, a personage of flesh and bones. Inside his tangible body is an eternal spirit." (130:22).  And this just one reason the Mormonism is a cult.  There are something like 100 other blasphemous doctrines from the Mormons.  But is Benny Hinn so different from the Mormons?  You have heard the previous 2 blasphemies from him. This is the 3rd.  I got a few more to post here yet.

What Does The Bible Say?
Christians has got to get the habit of asking this question, "What does the bible actually say?" to everything that is taught. Here are 2 verses which, when put together condemn the doctrine of Benny Hinn and the Mormons:

  1. Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 
  2. Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Simple.

If you really care for souls, don't only go out to look non-believers to evangelize to and bring them to the knowledge of Christ.  Look also inside the body of Christ and see how many so-called "saved souls" are perishing, being led down the paths to hell by false teachers ... wolves in sheeps' clothing, and do something about it. Spread the truth! Expose the wolves! Save the souls of the "saved souls", too.  Share these postings with the fellow Christians you know who are followers and fans of Benny Hinn, or just any Christian, even those who have not heard of him yet, so that they become aware!



Jesus says:-

Joh 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Thursday, June 02, 2011

Ye Shall Not Surely Die Part 3 - Unbiblical Christianity

The Evil of The Doctrine of Eternal Security

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The first teacher of eternal security is the serpent, which said to Eve, “Ye shall not surely die”. Eve believed the teaching, and died.

This doctrine is designed attract people who want like the comfort of deceiving themselves that they can enter the Kingdom of God by staying immoral.

Jesus did not teach it. Paul did not teach it. Jude warned against it. There are more than 100 bible verses that tell us that eternal life in Jesus Christ is conditional upon a someone who:

1) believes in Jesus Christ and accepts Him as Lord and Savior,


2) displays evidence of true belief through works of the Holy Spirit in his life ( i.e. transformation ) towards holy living and repentance,

3) endures until the end, never denying Jesus,

Proponents of the doctrine of eternal security will always deny the 2nd and the 3rd conditions. By their teaching, once a person accepts Jesus Christ, he can never lose it whatever he does, including the most abominable sins like homosexuality and adultery, and turning away from God to paganism. In the convoluted minds of these teachers, even as they take away from the word of God, they argue that a believer is adding to the completed work of Jesus Christ if he acts to resist the devil by doing anything to keep himself holy before God.

There are evil people who knowing the evil of this doctrine continue to promote it for the purpose of filthy lucre. They are not stupid.  They are evil.  Yet there are many "educated" Christians who stupidly believe in this convoluted argument. A person can even be educated in a bible college but remains stupid.

The evil of this doctrine is obvious. The motive is to attract members, as many as possible, for more members means more dollars. If they preach true Christianity, which is salvation through holiness, they would not get members. This is because the Western society probably has more homosexuals and adulterers who are not interested in giving up their licentious habits, than people who desire holy living. No members means no filthy lucre for the pastors. Malaysian pastors are also taking up this false doctrine, for the benefits in ringgit is obvious.

Just listen to this so-called pastor, Donald Coleman respond to the case of an abandonment and adultery :




Did you hear that?  An adulterer is on his way to heaven!!  But that is precisely the opposite of the bible says! Read these verses:


Heb 13:4 “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”


Rev 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

So, the bible says believers who commit adultery and fornication will have their place in the lake of fire. But to pastors and teachers like Donald Cole, James Dobson, Chuck Swindoll, Charles Stanley and the likes, membership is more important than saving souls.
The book of Jude warns us of such people, who turn the doctrine of grace into a doctrine of licentiousness, and the denial of Jesus Christ.

Jud 1:3 “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
Jud 1:4 “For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.”

The grace of God is turned to lewdness.  But this is not the emphasis that our church leaders give to the book of Jude. They love to quote the phrase “contending for the faith” out of this book, or talk of the imprisoned angels. But they ignore the main theme, which is turning “turning the grace of our God into lewdness”.

The teachers of the doctrine of eternal security are the children of the Satan, the father of all lies, for they will comfortably deny that they are teaching the freedom to sin and to commit adultery, yet with the very same breath that they teach that you can sin and go to heaven.

So, the bible is clear. If a person who is saved goes on to live a life of unrepentant sinning, he dies. Go read Ezekiel for yourself too, one of which verses say:

Eze 18:24 But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.

A righteous man who turns to evil dies. The unchanging God said it. Period. But the evil teachers speak exactly the opposite. They say that once the blood of Jesus makes a man righteous, he will never die. They conveniently omit to mention that you have to walk in the light for the blood to cleanse you. Once you stop walking in the light, you are not cleansed.

The unpleasant truth is that many foolish minded Christians seek the comfort of lower standards of morality, rather than seek after God’s standards. And in addition to this, they close their minds to the evil that comes out of this doctrine. Jesus says,

Mat 5:48 “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect”

But we prefer to listen to a pastor who gives us the comfort of being an imperfect human being, so that we need not feel convicted by our imperfection. Such is the evil in our own heart that causes us to seek out false teachers, and encourage their proliferation.

Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free..

Saturday, May 28, 2011

Backmasking - The Holy and The Satanic

MUSIC BACKMASKING: THE HOLY AND THE SATANIC


Just listen to these 2 clips first.  Try to identify the words.




For years since becoming a Christian, I had heard of how, when certain pop culture songs are reversed satanic words and calls for killing and murder can be heard.  I searched for them from way back 7 years ago, and listened to the few that I found.  I know what I heard was scary, yet I did not fully want to believe what I heard.  The reason was I did not know if the sounds I heard were really the same songs claimed to be reversed from.

The Holy

Well today, I discovered that the "Audacity" sound editor freeware has the "reverse music" feature.  So I tried it out with a few songs.  What I had on my hard disk are mostly Christian songs. So I reversed songs like "Amazing Grace" and  "Shout To the Lord".  Well, there were no recognizable sounds after being reversed.  And then I tried it on "Arise" and I was amazed!  Amazed!   That was what you heard above.  The lyric that you heard in the first part was "be enthroned, on my praise".  I am sure you also heard the reversed part as "hear my Lord, Lord to me".

The Satanic

Here is a clip of the song "Stairway to Heaven".  I have had it for some time by now and only tested it for myself today.  When the reversed song was re-reversed into its original direction, it is indeed the same song.

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Played backwards: 'Oh here's to my sweet Satan. The one whose little path would make me sad, whose power is satan. He'll give those with him 666, there was a little toolshed where he made us suffer, sad Satan.'

Forward lyrics: 'If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now, it's just a spring clean for the May queen. Yes there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on.'

In the past, I was not able to test them out for myself.  I sort-of 3/4 believed and a 1/4 of me don't. Today, I know for sure.

You better believe it.  Satan has long been at work in the pop music business.  Why else do you think there is so much drugs, suicide, sex and murder within the industry?

More of these later.

Jesus says:
John 8:32 "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"

Friday, May 27, 2011

Benny Hinn's Shenanigans 2

Benny Hinn says we are gods

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The serpent said to Eve, ".... and ye shall be as gods".  And Benny

Hinn goes one step further.  He says, "Ye are gods".  The serpent continues to use the same lie today.

Listen to what he teaches:




( Here's what he said " "God came from heaven, became a man, made man into little gods, went back to heaven as a man. He faces the Father as a man. I face devils as the son of God. Quit your nonsense! What else are you? If you say, I am, you’re saying I’m a part of Him, right? Is he God? Are you His offspring? Are you His children? You can’t be human!")

Benny Hinn does not know that the bible says we are children of God by adoption.  He is too stupid to understand what he reads in the bible that says, Gal 4:5  "To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."  ( See also Rom 8:23 ).  In his stupidity, he thinks we are children of God by birth.  But hear how those even more stupid white folks eagerly answer "yes" to his questions as he teaches them the wrong things.


Yet there are others among us who will continue to defend him, find excuses for what he says. These people have itching ears.  Many ears itch for Benny Hinn to scratch.

We are warned in 2Ti 4:3  "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;".  

Maybe Benny Hinn isn't as stupid as we think he is.  Maybe he is wickedly smart, saying exactly what itching ears love to hear, that the tills may continue to ring.



Do you have itching ears that love to hear that you are a god?

Jesus says,
John 8:32  "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

                                                                         

Thursday, May 26, 2011

Benny Hinn's Shenanigans 1

There are 9 in the Trinity!!???
So says Benny Hinn.

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Hear this for yourself. As it is, we already have difficulties trying to understand this mysterious ability of our One God to manifest Himself as three. Yet He is only one! But this is what Benny Hinn says:




Clearly, we have a false teacher here! But he does have a big following though, even among our Malaysian pastors. One pastor I know happily told me that he went over to Indonesia some years ago to see Benny Hinn preach and saw him working signs and wonders. Another went to Singapore.


The New Testament scriptures, starting with Jesus in the gospels, followed by Paul, Peter, John and Jude in the epistles repeatedly warn us of false teachers, false prophets and to seek out the truth. Yet not only ignorant lay Christians, but even church leaders continue to chase after preachers of wealth of blessings and signs and wonders.

Some of the Christians who have heard my warnings had retorted, "But God is using him!".  To which I now ask, "So it does not matter to you whether you are learning the truth, as long as you see miracles being performed?".  The book of Revelation tells us that even the servants of the devil can perform great signs and wonders.


Now, are there 9 in the Trinity? Hmmm. Wonder where did that idea come from?


The unpleasant truth is that many Christians, including pastors are fools are signs and wonders, ignoring the warnings of Jesus and the apostles.



Jesus says:-

Joh 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Ye Shall Not Surely Die Part 2 - Unbiblical Christianity



The Clumsy Verse-twisting Skills of Eternal Security Teachers

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The serpent said to Eve, “Ye shall not surely die”.  The serpent is the first teacher of eternal security.

Many churches are correct in pointing out that the Jehovah Witnesses go to great extent to twist bible verses and meaning of words to get them to say what they choose to believe.   But the same churches that poke their fingers at cults themselves do the same thing.

Here, I will list down some of the more common verses that the eternal security doctrine teachers will use, and how they try to squeeze out the meaning they want out of them.

You will find that “Calvinists” make up the majority of the people who push this doctrine to you, giving it a high-sounding label called “Perseverance of the saints”.  You will also find that this doctrine is highly prevalent among the English-educated and Western-oriented communities, but not among the Oriental Christians. The reason is that the Western society is already too steeped into the sin of adultery and licentiousness of sexual freedom.   Pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex is nothing more than personal liberty, and at most a personal commitment to one’s partner.  Sex is no longer considered as a feel good past time, and no longer under the ambit of God’s purview.  Yet the bible speaks against them.  And, if a church tries to hold firmly to God’s demand on holiness, there is fear of low membership ( which means “no money” coming in ).  So the western church and their leaders must twist scriptures in order to accommodate the culture of liberty, free sex and human rights in order to gain and retain membership.  And so too, in this country of Malaysia, most of those who believe in this “once-saved-forever-saved” doctrine are the English educated segment.

The Silliness and Danger of This Doctrine

Just watch this Youtube report, and see for yourself the evil that this doctrine of the devil can lead to:

Click on these 2 links to watch:


How They Would Deceive You

And these are the 3 steps they would use to prime you into accepting the false doctrine:

Step 1:    A truly born again Christian, by the Spirit of God will not want to go out to sin.  God will prevent him from sinning i.e. He will be “kept by God” and is thus eternally secure ( Makes you wonder how David continued to commit adultery with Bathsheba, or why Judas went on to betray Jesus, doesn’t it?  Makes you realize why pastors turn a blind eye to adulterers sitting in the pews. )

Step 2.    If a person is truly born again does go on to commit a sin, God will always bring him to repentance again before He is allowed to die.  ( I wonder why Judas was not brought to repentance before he hung himself, neither were Ananias and his wife Saphira ).

Step 3.    Therefore a person truly born again Christian is saved eternally, no matter how he lives and how he dies.

See the simple human logic which is founded on the lustfulness of man and his foolishness is applied?

For a good explanation against the false teaching of Eternal Security, go to: Forgotten Word Ministries.  Another very strong preacher against this false doctrine among the Western preachers is Dan Corner Also, you will often find that eternal security teachers blatantly contradict themselves in their effort to support satan’s doctrine.  You will often find them arguing for eternal security while at the same time expounding on verses that speak of conditional security, as if both are the same.

Some of the Verses Taken Out of Context

“and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from ALL sin.” 1 John 1:7

All the sins of a believer are indeed cleansed by the blood of Jesus.  But as soon as a person stops believing, are his sins from that point on still being cleansed?  The  Good News Bible Church seems to think so, or it does not understand the phrase “falling away” from the faith.

Eph 4:30  And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption
Pleasant Ridge Baptist Church argues that once a person is “sealed”, the seal cannot be removed.  Here is an example of “reading meanings into the verse”.  The verse in no way says that, but the Good News Bible Church puts in that meaning by extending on it.

“He made you alive with Him, having forgiven us ALL our transgressions.” Colossians 2:13b
Sure. As soon as a person receives Christ, all his transgressions are forgiven.  And if he gives up on Christ, these transgressions are still forgiven.  But the act of unbelief from that point on leads to his death. The Good News Bible Church  focuses on one word “ALL” and takes it in the wrong direction.

“I give eternal life to them, and they shall NEVER perish.” John 10:28

Sure. Eternal life means a life that does not perish. Jesus was emphasizing the meaning of eternal life.  Jesus wasn’t saying that once a person has received it, he will never lose it. The Good News Bible Church does not understand the English language?

“And everyone who lives and believes in Me shall NEVER die.” John 11:26
History and our personal life experiences tell us that many a Christian has stopped  living or believing in Christ.  Many have changed their beliefs for the sake of love, money, love of life in this flesh or out of disappointment with God. Good News Bible Church does not know about Judas Iscariot?

“I will NEVER desert you, nor will I ever forsake you.” Hebrews 13:5
This verse is not about salvation, but about conduct. But the Good News Bible Church says it does.  In fact, some Christians actually told me that they believe God in their mercy would surely forgive Judas.  They ignore Mar 14:21  which says “The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.”

“For the gifts and the calling of God are IRREVOCABLE.” Romans 11:29
They focus on irrevocable, but ignore the next verse that says that the gift is subject to obedience in order to deceive.  Good News Bible Church

Joh 6:39  This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
They focus on “I should lose nothing”, but avoid “of all He has given Me”.  So, are all people in the church “given by the Father”? Satan has put his people into the church too.  Jesus will only not lose those “given by the Father”.

Joh 6:44  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
How many Christians do you think are in church because the “come to Christ”? How many Christians do you think are in church because they only seek the blessings and gifts of God, but not God.  Just think, the moment a terrorist puts a knife to the head of the believer or his child, and demand he renounce Christ or be killed, how many “Christians” would choose to die?




In the next part, I will show you many of the verses that tell you that neither Jesus, nor  the apostles do not teach eternal security.

The unpleasant truth is that the eternal security doctrine is popular only for 2 reasons:-

1)      To accommodate a licentious lifestyle among Westerners who still want to pretend they are Christians and,
2)      To attract more members to the church for the sake of serving mammon instead of God.

Jesus says:-

Joh 8:32  And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Tuesday, May 17, 2011

Issues Against The Medical Profession - Unbilical Christianity


9. The Issue of the Serpent on The Rod
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Asclepius and his rod, plagiarized from Moses
Undeniably, even the medical profession admits that the symbol of the medical profession – the Serpent on a rod – is the symbol of Rod of Asclepius.  Now, in case you are not aware, Asclepius was a Greek god, associated with astrology, and with medicine  and healing.  The picture on the left shows one form of that symbol.

Now, as we all know, Christians are terrified of the serpent. Anything to do what the serpent is therefore taboo.  And that creates a problem for the medical profession, which uses this symbol to represent itself.  And there are pastors in Malaysia who vehemently oppose the use of this sign, and preaches against the medical profession.  Let’s discuss this subject today.

Have You Not Heard of Nehushtan?

Moses and the Nehushtan. 
Now, I wonder.  What about the Nehushtan.  The Nehushtan existed long before the emergence of the Greek culture and its mythology.  And in case you are again not aware, Nehushtan was the bronze serpent that Moses made while in the wilderness. See Numbers 21:8.  Now, God had actually instructed Moses to make this bronze serpent. (Did God tell Moses to make an evil symbol? ) And when any Israelite was bitten by a poisonous serpent, all he needed to do was to look at this bronze serpent and he would not die of the poison of the serpent.  A miraculous healing took place!  But about 700 years later, this serpent on a rod was destroyed by King Hezekiah when he discovered that the Israelites were worshipping it.  See 2Ki 18:4 

Why am I raising this matter up?  Now, as I had said in an earlier article “No Medicines please, we are Christians”, I am no doctor and have nothing to do with the medical profession.  They have also not paid me a bribe to write this in their defense.  All I am trying to do is to bring some sanity back into Christianity and to raise awareness of how over-zealous teachings can blind rationale. Irrational Christianity surely is not Christianity.  It is Phariseeism.  And Phariseeism is to be condemned.

Now, why do preachers against this symbol of Asclepius not think a little deeper?  Is it not possible that the pagans had plagiarized this symbol from Moses?  Did not Jesus also compared His resurrection with this symbol of the serpent in  Joh 3: saying

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:



Satanic crosses, 1 and 2
Horrors!  Jesus must have likened Himself to the devil!  Of course not, silly.  The symbol by itself is not evil.  People use it for evil.

Look again.  I will present to you here 3 different satanic use of the cross. Now, using the same logic as these pastors aversion to symbol of Asclepius, would it not be right for them also to declare the use of the cross to be wrong too?  Just as the followers of Asclepius had plagiarized the symbol of Nehushtan for their god, the followers of satan has also plagiarized the cross.


The satanic Bent Cross used by the Popes
Obviously, paganism had hijacked the symbol of Nehushtan.  And these "extremist" or "fanatical" pastors had declared its use as out of bounds to Christians.  But now, here is evidence that the symbol of the cross has also been similarly hijacked.  Will these silly fanatical pastors also, like the silly Jehovah Witnesses declare the use of the cross out of bounds, too?



The Pagan Names of Months and Days of Week

I should demand that these pastors and the Jehovah Witnesses must stop using the names of the days of the week because of their pagan origins:-

Sunday
From Latin "dies solis", meaning "sun's day": which is a pagan Roman holiday. 

Monday
From the Anglo-Saxon "monandaeg", which means "the moon's day", a sacred day to the goddess of the moon.
Tuesday
Comes from the name of the Norse god Tyr.  To the Romans it is named as "dies Martis" after their war-god Mars.

Wednesday
Comes out of the name Wodan ( or Odin), to honor the Norse god.  Romans called it dies Mercurii, after their god Mercury.

Thursday
Thor is one of the sons of Odin. In the Norse languages this day is called Torsdag
Friday
The is the day in honor of the Norse goddess Frigg. Frigg is known as Venus to the Romans, who call this day "dies veneris".

Saturday
This day was called "dies Saturni"  or "Saturn's Day", in honor of the Roman god Saturn. In Anglo-Saxon: sater daeg.
( Sourced from William Morris, editor, The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, New College Edition, Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1976, Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language, Portland House, New York, 1989, William Matthew O'Neil, Time and the Calendars, Sydney University Press, 1975 )


Consistency! Consistency! Consistency!  Consistency is always needed!  Why are you so inconsistent in your beliefs?  Why are you so irrational?

And they must not use these pagan names of the following months of the year, too.

  • January: named after Janus, Roman god of doors, beginnings, sunset and sunrise, who had one face looking forward and one backward,
  • March: named after Mars, the Roman god of war,
  • April: named after Aprilis, perhaps derived from aperire, (Latin to open, as in opening buds and blossoms) or possibly referring to Aphrodite of Roman, i.e Venus, to the Greeks
  • May: named after Maia, a Roman goddess who is the mother of Mercury by Jupiter and daughter of Atlas,
  • June: named after Juno, chief Roman goddess.
Should not the extra holier-than-thou pastors also stop mentioning these names and stop spelling out these names in their monthly bulletins and time-tables? So many things in the world have pagan affiliations, simply because pagan empires ruled the world successively.

Tell me, where is the consistency of your doctrine?; where is the rationality of your belief, that I may stand corrected?

The unpleasant truth is these pastors have no answer, that their inconsistency and superstition is revealed.  They just adopt special rules and taboos and put them over their believers so that they can "re-brand" a niche for themselves and find a captive market.

Do you wonder why Jesus said that in the end times, the devil will do things that can even deceive the elect?  Of course, in that episode Jesus was pointing to the use of signs and wonders by the devil to deceive.  But it does look like the devil is also able to twist the minds of the elect against bible truths as well. The bible revealed to us that the devil can even make use of an apostle, Peter without him realizing it; not until Jesus said to him in Mat 4:10  "Get thee hence, Satan ...".  So too now, we see many anointed people of God also similarly being misled by the devil and not know it.


And did Jesus not say:
Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


                                                                                            

Saturday, May 07, 2011

No Doctors and Medicines Please - Unbiblical Christianity


7.  NO DOCTORS AND MEDICINES PLEASE, WE ARE CHRISTIANS
Allow me to make these statements first:

1)        I am a believer in miracle healings, having experienced such healings on myself, and having prayed over others and seeing them healed miraculous, including a 2-year old boy in coma, written-off as a vegetable by the doctors at the UH.
2)        I believe in God’s power to cast out demons, having seen the power of God’s word over manifestations
3)        I believe God can heal any condition if He wills, i.e. if He wills.  He will not heal Paul, even though Paul appealed to him variously.  So don't come and tell me that all Christians will be healed if only he has faith.  That is a lie.
4)        I have the testimony of a late 80+ year old sister in Christ, in whom the Lord grew an by-pass artery to her heart, so that she did not have to go through the angioplasty operation.
5)        All medicines are poisons.  It is only a matter of degree. Even vitamins taken in large dosage can be poisonous.  And poisons also have healing properties – consider arsenic, mercury and snake venom for starters.
6)        I am all for holiness teaching, being sanctified and set apart for God; but I am very against wrongful teaching, purportedly to make ourselves more acceptable to God.  Pharisees were like that.


The Dilemma

I am pleased to say that not all churches fall into this trap.  I believe maybe 1 in a few hundred churches would teach this cultish belief.  But having said that, I am sad that few churches ever come out openly to rebut this wrongful teaching with scriptures.

A Christian brethren, a new believer posed to me this new found fear today.  He said,

“I overheard a pastor saying that medication has its roots in witchcraft.  The Greek word of medication is ‘Pharmakeia’, which means witchcraft, as is translated in the bible.  Is it true then that I should not visit doctors anymore? That I cannot take medicines?  That I must avoid all herbal cures?”

To which I only need to reply with,

1Co 6:12  All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1Co 10:23  All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

Simple and powerful truths.  The truth sets you free.  Pastors in their fervor to create their own branding squeeze verses out of context to find meanings of their own.


{Sigh}.  When will authoritative figures of the church stop making silly interpretations of bible verses?  In my 10 years as a Christian, I have never heard a pastor expound on the above 2 verses, and I am one who likes to visit all kinds of churches.  Pastors seem to dread these 2 verses.  These verses stop them from preaching taboos and set believers free to follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit.  Pastors don’t seem to believe that the Holy Spirit is capable of teaching believers, neither do they like it; so they usurp the Holy Spirit’s role and dictate their own laws to the believers.

And how good it is that this brother has the good sense to check out whatever he hears. 


The Source of the Misinterpretation

Let’s first have a quick look at the word sorcery and its derivatives in the bible.

  1. Act 8:9  But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery { G3096 mageuō }, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one:
  2. Act 8:11  And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries { G3095  mageia }.
  3. Act 13:6  And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer { G3097 ‘ma-gos’ }.a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Barjesus:
  4. Act 13:8  But Elymas the sorcerer { G3097 ‘ma-gos’ }. (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.

In these 4 verses, sorcery is translated from mageuo or magos, meaning magic.    So we will just leave them out of the discussion.  I think magos has more to do with illusions than with witchcraft and idolatry. Some may disagree.  But anyway, some magicians would have mixed witchcraft with their illusions anyway.

I believe that it is these following verses which are being taken out of context.  Yes, the word pharmakeia  does point to sorcery being practiced together with the dispensing of drugs, potions and cures and so the bible has much to say against it:

  1. Rev 9:21  Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries {G5331 ‘pharmakeia}, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
  2. Rev 18:23  And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries {G5331 ‘pharmakeia}  were all nations deceived.
  3. Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers {G5332 pharmakeus}, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
  4. Rev 22:15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers {G5333 pharmakos}, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

But when I consider the context of the latter 4 verses as above, I am more inclined to think of witchdoctor-type of treatment and drug abuse, i.e. the use of intoxicating plants to induce trances and hallucinations.  I am not inclined to think of conventional medical treatment.

In these 4 verses, we see the derivatives of pharmakon, and the noun pharmakeia is described by the Vines bible dictionary as:

<A-1,Noun,5331,pharmakia[-eia]>

(Eng., "pharmacy," etc.) primarily signified "the use of medicine, drugs, spells;" then, "poisoning;" then, "sorcery," Gal_5:20, RV, "sorcery" (AV, "witchcraft"), mentioned as one of "the works of the flesh." See also Rev_9:21; Rev_18:23. In the Sept., Exo_7:11, Exo_7:22; Exo_8:7, Exo_8:18; Isa_47:9, Isa_47:12. In "sorcery," the use of drugs, whether simple or potent, was generally accompanied by incantations and appeals to occult powers, with the provision of various charms, amulets, etc., professedly designed to keep the applicant or patient from the attention and power of demons, but actually to impress the applicant with the mysterious resources and powers of the sorcerer.

So, by the above we can safely guess that in the olden days, healers mixed potions derived from plants, animals and minerals, and then in addition to dispensing these cures and potions, they would call upon the spirits through chants and spells to either empower their potions, or just to create an air of supernatural power for show. 

Doubtless, this kind of action is what the bible calls idolatry and witchcraft.  But today, do the pharmacists and pharmaceutical companies today cast spells, dance and ring bells, wave wands over their capsules, tablets and ointments before selling them to you?

Look here, the mere act of dispensing cures and potions surely does not constitute witchcraft.  It is the acts of chanting and calling upon the spirits to empower the cures that constitutes witchcraft. Take note that the bible does talk of healers, physicians, cures, balms and ointments without condemning them.  Go and check out these verses for yourself:

Physicians and Healers:

Ointments and Balms:

Binding of Wounds:

Use of Herbs for healing:

Vinegar and Myrrh as painkillers:

Wine for stomach ailments:

It is silly of anyone to say that all medicines, including the herbs must not be consumed for fear of pharmakeia.  The bible is so clear on the fact that not all dispensing of cures is pharmakeia, and not all healers are sorcerers!

How can a pastor ever ignore these and go on to tell a believer that all kinds of medication is pharmakeia? Are they not preaching against the bible?

Pharmakeia is pharmakeia only because it is practiced with calling on the dark forces through chants and spells.  Making ointments and balms and mixing herbs without the involvement of dark forces IS NOT pharmakeia!


What about "Images "

The word pharmakeia has been interpreted as sorcery .... something not godly.  In a similar vein, the word images {H4676 matstsêbâh} {H8655 terâphîym} ,{H2553 chammân} {H6754 tseh'-lem} is also linked to idolatry in almost all instances of appearance.  Does that not obligate these pastors to preach against all images as being offensive to God, and therefore no Christian should have any photo or sculpture in his possession? Yet these pastors can discern properly in the case of the word image.  But they cannot discern properly in the case of the word pharmakeia. 
 

Drugs and Mental Illnesses
I am not a medical doctor.  Neither am I trained in psychiatry.  I know next to nuts about these subjects.  But these I have to say.  Many people appear to be mad, talk to themselves, have irrational fears, hate themselves, have certain obsessive habits,  and even hear voices.  The medical and psychiatric business have given these all kinds of high sounding labels.  Their ability to stick a label to any condition is what makes them expert practitioners.  Their ability to dispense certain medications to “treat” certain illness is the reason why they are sought out, and paid big bucks.

But there is another side to these so-called "madnesses" – the spiritual side.  By putting medical labels on them, we conceal the probability of spiritual forces that cause the condition.  The bible tells us that Jesus cast out the demons that caused what appeared to be madness and epilepsy, and people get healed.

So there could be 2 dimensions to the problem – spiritual and physiological.  If the cause of the “madness” is spiritual, no drug in the world is going to heal the problem.  The drug merely suppresses the behavior of the person so that he appear more controlled.  He is drugged, so to speak.  He stays “mad”.  The drugs can only help if the “madness” is physiological (due to chemical imbalances), and the drug helps to restore the chemical balance in the body.

But God can heal both physiological and spiritual disturbances.  So prayer is always encouraged, together with fasting.  But God is sovereign.  God will have mercy upon whom He will have mercy.  He will have compassion upon whom He will have compassion.  There is no knowing who God will choose to heal, who he will not. So I am not going to create a PR spin for God.  He doesn't need me to. 

But if you, having little faith in God, are sure that the condition is a physiological one, and you are also prepared to live with the side effects ( including the $$$$ effect ), addictive effects, etc  of the manufactured drug ( for I am sure Pfizer, Zuellig etc certainly did not cast spells over these drugs during the manufacturing process) , then go ahead.  Remember that the bible warns in  1Co 10:23  "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."  and “all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any”;  for when one becomes dependent on it, one has been brought under its power, neither is it expedient and edifying!

So, one should set his heart to fast, and pray and pray and pray, and hope for his mercy. 

The Evil of Pharmaceutical Industry
Admittedly, the pharmaceutical industry, driven by greed and the love of money has been promoting drugs that do not really cure.  These drugs merely suppress the symptoms.  In their greed, they even hide long term negative effects of addiction and destruction to the body systems. Worse yet, these drugs even have mind-altering properties, often long term as with LSD and the likes.

But the issues here are the greed of the manufacturers and the dangers of physical poisoning, addiction and destructive side effects.  Is the healing property of the medication an issue if the dangers are absent?

The right thing for pastors to do is to warn believers of the dangers of the lies of the pharmaceutical industry.  It would even be correct of pastors to warn people that taking such drugs may cause them to reduce their faith in God’s ability to heal, for people would rather trust man-made products that damage the body system, rather than on God’s healing.

But would it be correct of the pastors to classify taking medicines and seeing doctors to be a sin against God that will lead people to hell?  I would think not.

Most businesses, if not all are driven by the profit motive anyway.  In the their pursuit of profit, all kinds of trickeries, deceptions, lies and cheating are being perpetrated.  Every product advertisement is a lie.  Every service slogan is a lie.  Do you ever wonder why every brand of soap powder claims it is the most effective?  Do you ever wonder why every bank claims it best look after your interests?  And that’s for starters.  Why don’t these pastors start telling their congregation to stop getting involved in business, to stop working for them? Why don’t these pastors tell their members to stop working for advertising companies?

Business in itself is not wrong.  The evil is in the methods they employ to get profits, in their love for money.  So too, the problem with the pharmaceutical industry is not the medication, but the lies behind the products they sell.

There is also an argument against pharmaceutical companies being the supporters of Hilter, and that they produce chemicals to kills Jews, and Agent Orange to kills Vietnamese.  Hello, my friends, John Calvin, one of early protestant reformers also ordered the drowning of the Anabaptists, so therefore all churches must be condemned. Why are you not doing so?  The aircraft companies also produce airplanes to kill and destroy, right?  Why are you pastors still flying here and there on jet planes?  The steel industry has been producing materials for guns, bombs and bayonets to kill. Are you still using knives in your kitchen?


Consistency of Interpretation
Also, one of the tools by which you can test any teaching is to look for consistency of application.  For example, 

Rev 22:15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers {G5333 pharmakos}, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Now, we see the word sorcerer being pharmakos or druggist in the same line as the word dogs.  Now, for consistency of application, since we are against the word pharmakos, are we then not supposed to also say that Christians must also avoid dogs, and not keep dogs?  Alarm bells should start ringing now.  We should immediately start checking for the correct meaning of pharmakos, which we are to avoid, else we must also avoid dogs.

And About Medical Doctors
1)     I believe a person should always learn to depend on God first, and avoid seeing a doctor if he can, or has enough faith do avoid doing so.
2)     But not all Christians have the same degree of faith.  Faith is a gift.  The word of God says of faith having regard to the gift of prophecy in Rom 12:6  "Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;” so, exercise the issue of healing according to your proportion of faith!.
3)     I believe my God is gracious, so that he provides doctors for those who are not in the faith, and those who have little faith as well.


My Conclusions

1)   Do not be involved with any medication, treatment or cures that call upon the spiritual world through chants, amulets, meditation and calling upon of spirits. Flee from idolatry.  If your Chinese sinseh waves his hands over the herbs and mumbles his incantations, flee. So too, if your doctor or pharmacist does so.
2)   Be careful with medications that are addictive, cause dependency ( like sleeping pills ).
3)   Be on guard against medications that are mind-altering, causes hallucinations, avoid these.
4)   Flee from any treatment that results in you turning away from God, diminishes your faith in Him or gives glory to other spiritual beings.
5)   By right, Christians should welcome death, because in death we will immediately be with the Lord.  But as with Hezekiah, not all of us are willing to leave this world at God’s call.  Therefore many turn to doctors in the hope of a few years extension.  What am I to say?  Can I tell you a secret way of convincing God to extend your life?
6)  Many of us turn to doctors not for the fear of dying, but for the fear of not dying only to live in a state of invalidity, morbidity and helplessness.  Again, what am I to say?  Do I have the method to surely make God not put the sufferings of Job on you?
7)   Therefore, be free to enjoy the medicinal value of herbs, created by our Almighty God and give glory to Him.  Accept the medications of the doctors by all means, only do not turn away from Him nor glorify Him less.

The unpleasant truth is that churches no longer dare to stand up for the truth.  They just avoid raising issues with false teachers. Why? Because they themselves are carrying too many false teachings.  So people who live in glass houses would not throw stones.

Jesus says,
Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free



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