Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Ye Shall Not Surely Die Part 2 - Unbiblical Christianity



The Clumsy Verse-twisting Skills of Eternal Security Teachers

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The serpent said to Eve, “Ye shall not surely die”.  The serpent is the first teacher of eternal security.

Many churches are correct in pointing out that the Jehovah Witnesses go to great extent to twist bible verses and meaning of words to get them to say what they choose to believe.   But the same churches that poke their fingers at cults themselves do the same thing.

Here, I will list down some of the more common verses that the eternal security doctrine teachers will use, and how they try to squeeze out the meaning they want out of them.

You will find that “Calvinists” make up the majority of the people who push this doctrine to you, giving it a high-sounding label called “Perseverance of the saints”.  You will also find that this doctrine is highly prevalent among the English-educated and Western-oriented communities, but not among the Oriental Christians. The reason is that the Western society is already too steeped into the sin of adultery and licentiousness of sexual freedom.   Pre-marital sex and extra-marital sex is nothing more than personal liberty, and at most a personal commitment to one’s partner.  Sex is no longer considered as a feel good past time, and no longer under the ambit of God’s purview.  Yet the bible speaks against them.  And, if a church tries to hold firmly to God’s demand on holiness, there is fear of low membership ( which means “no money” coming in ).  So the western church and their leaders must twist scriptures in order to accommodate the culture of liberty, free sex and human rights in order to gain and retain membership.  And so too, in this country of Malaysia, most of those who believe in this “once-saved-forever-saved” doctrine are the English educated segment.

The Silliness and Danger of This Doctrine

Just watch this Youtube report, and see for yourself the evil that this doctrine of the devil can lead to:

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How They Would Deceive You

And these are the 3 steps they would use to prime you into accepting the false doctrine:

Step 1:    A truly born again Christian, by the Spirit of God will not want to go out to sin.  God will prevent him from sinning i.e. He will be “kept by God” and is thus eternally secure ( Makes you wonder how David continued to commit adultery with Bathsheba, or why Judas went on to betray Jesus, doesn’t it?  Makes you realize why pastors turn a blind eye to adulterers sitting in the pews. )

Step 2.    If a person is truly born again does go on to commit a sin, God will always bring him to repentance again before He is allowed to die.  ( I wonder why Judas was not brought to repentance before he hung himself, neither were Ananias and his wife Saphira ).

Step 3.    Therefore a person truly born again Christian is saved eternally, no matter how he lives and how he dies.

See the simple human logic which is founded on the lustfulness of man and his foolishness is applied?

For a good explanation against the false teaching of Eternal Security, go to: Forgotten Word Ministries.  Another very strong preacher against this false doctrine among the Western preachers is Dan Corner Also, you will often find that eternal security teachers blatantly contradict themselves in their effort to support satan’s doctrine.  You will often find them arguing for eternal security while at the same time expounding on verses that speak of conditional security, as if both are the same.

Some of the Verses Taken Out of Context

“and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from ALL sin.” 1 John 1:7

All the sins of a believer are indeed cleansed by the blood of Jesus.  But as soon as a person stops believing, are his sins from that point on still being cleansed?  The  Good News Bible Church seems to think so, or it does not understand the phrase “falling away” from the faith.

Eph 4:30  And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption
Pleasant Ridge Baptist Church argues that once a person is “sealed”, the seal cannot be removed.  Here is an example of “reading meanings into the verse”.  The verse in no way says that, but the Good News Bible Church puts in that meaning by extending on it.

“He made you alive with Him, having forgiven us ALL our transgressions.” Colossians 2:13b
Sure. As soon as a person receives Christ, all his transgressions are forgiven.  And if he gives up on Christ, these transgressions are still forgiven.  But the act of unbelief from that point on leads to his death. The Good News Bible Church  focuses on one word “ALL” and takes it in the wrong direction.

“I give eternal life to them, and they shall NEVER perish.” John 10:28

Sure. Eternal life means a life that does not perish. Jesus was emphasizing the meaning of eternal life.  Jesus wasn’t saying that once a person has received it, he will never lose it. The Good News Bible Church does not understand the English language?

“And everyone who lives and believes in Me shall NEVER die.” John 11:26
History and our personal life experiences tell us that many a Christian has stopped  living or believing in Christ.  Many have changed their beliefs for the sake of love, money, love of life in this flesh or out of disappointment with God. Good News Bible Church does not know about Judas Iscariot?

“I will NEVER desert you, nor will I ever forsake you.” Hebrews 13:5
This verse is not about salvation, but about conduct. But the Good News Bible Church says it does.  In fact, some Christians actually told me that they believe God in their mercy would surely forgive Judas.  They ignore Mar 14:21  which says “The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.”

“For the gifts and the calling of God are IRREVOCABLE.” Romans 11:29
They focus on irrevocable, but ignore the next verse that says that the gift is subject to obedience in order to deceive.  Good News Bible Church

Joh 6:39  This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
They focus on “I should lose nothing”, but avoid “of all He has given Me”.  So, are all people in the church “given by the Father”? Satan has put his people into the church too.  Jesus will only not lose those “given by the Father”.

Joh 6:44  No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
How many Christians do you think are in church because the “come to Christ”? How many Christians do you think are in church because they only seek the blessings and gifts of God, but not God.  Just think, the moment a terrorist puts a knife to the head of the believer or his child, and demand he renounce Christ or be killed, how many “Christians” would choose to die?




In the next part, I will show you many of the verses that tell you that neither Jesus, nor  the apostles do not teach eternal security.

The unpleasant truth is that the eternal security doctrine is popular only for 2 reasons:-

1)      To accommodate a licentious lifestyle among Westerners who still want to pretend they are Christians and,
2)      To attract more members to the church for the sake of serving mammon instead of God.

Jesus says:-

Joh 8:32  And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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