Showing posts with label Grace. Show all posts
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Tuesday, April 10, 2012

Will A Loving God Send Man To Eternal Hell?



IS GOD CRUEL?

No, He is not. A most loving God has done the unthinkable thing to ensure you don't go to hell.  It is just that you choose to mock at His offer of eternal life to you.


Related Reading:
Will God Be Angry Enough?
(2Is Hell Eternal?   


The white man brought Christianity to the East, and because of it, today I am able to know the one God, the One who created all things seen and unseen.  For that I am thankful.  But on the other hand, I also realize that the white man that brought God into my Eastern culture has used their God-given wisdom to reason same God out of their own culture!   Such is the folly of human wisdom.  The churches in the western hemisphere that preach holy living and obedience to God’s commandments on holy living are scarce and few.  Wicked churches emphasize only obedience of believers in terms of paying money into their coffers.

What is the cause of this folly?  The bible tells us it is the lust of the heart.

Jas 1:14  But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

 That great desire springing from the seed of the devil inside man to sin against God, coupled with the innate knowledge, and fear of the coming wrath of God against unrepentant sinners.  They want desperately to sin and continue sinning, yet they fear the judgment and wrath of God. 

The saddest thing I see is that many Asians look up to white man so highly that they have simply accepted the teachings of ungodly white men who had created them so that they can justify their love for adultery, fornication and sodomy. Very often, these Asians call themselves Bible Students.  What have they learned?


Atheism -The Solution of The Wicked

How can one freely sin without having to fear?  He reasons, “Oh, if only there is no God, then there is no judgment! ”  And thus some have reasoned God out of their lives by inventing the idea of atheism.  Such is the folly of their wisdom.  “Since there is no God, there will be no punishment.  Since there is no punishment, we can do as we please.”

But then, not every lusting sinner buys into the idea of atheism.  There is this inborn and deep-seated knowledge in most people that God does exists,

Rom 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

and He is going to judge. 

Eze 33:9  Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity;

And not everyone of them can numb this knowledge.  The lust to continue sinning brings them to find, or rather twist out meanings in the scriptures which are not there, such as: “Maybe God is not angry with that sin after all” , or “Hell is really not what the bible says it is.”  Here is an illustration of this approach.  The homosexuals or habitual adulterer may well reason that since God is love, surely that love extends also to the homosexuals as well.  “Didn’t the scriptures say that God loves the sinners?  Are not homosexuals also sinners?” or “Didn’t the scriptures say that Jonathan the son of King Saul said that he loves David ? ( They interpret 1Sa18:1  out of its context, for the verse actually says Jonathan loves David as his own soul, and not as his lover)  Ahhh!  That means Jonathan and David were having a homosexual affair!  Yet David is the king that God loves the most.  Therefore God loves homosexuals and it is okay to be a homosexual!”   Sorry, no.  The bible says homosexuals and all sinners for that matter, who do not cease and desist, and repent from whatever they are doing are all going into hell!


Reasoning Hell Out of Their Minds

Well then, since that does not work, the homosexuals would start reasoning ( it is their own reasoning, mind you.  There is no bible verse to support it )  that,  “Surely it is against the nature of a merciful, gracious and loving God to torment people in hell permanently and endlessly.  If He does that, He is no longer God, at least not one worthy of worship.  Therefore the fires of hell will surely annihilate the sinners after some intense burning …. and then poof! every essence of sinner vanishes for good!”   Now, that sounds something like the ultimate state of nirvana which a Buddhist tries to achieve through perfection in living.  These evil-minded people should try selling their idea to the Buddhists.  “Why strive so hard trying to live a perfect life in order to achieve nirvana? We can sin all we want  and end up as nothingness after a while in hell anyway!”   No, the bible says that the fire in the Lake of Fire is permanent.  Jesus Himself says so in Matthew 25:41 that the fire is everlasting. 

Mat 25:41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Do they think that Jesus doesn’t know the meaning of everlasting?  Do they think Jesus is stupid like they are?  Not only will hell fire be everlasting, the bible also says that torment from the fire is for ever and ever. 


Rev 14:11  And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Rev 20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


No matter how one twists and turns, and contorts his perverted mind,  “for ever and ever” means just that – for ever and ever.  If anyone sincerely thinks “for ever and ever” does not mean for ever and ever, he must be real stupid.

Some try to justify their idea of annihilation of the soul by referring to what Jesus says in this verse.

Mat 10:28  And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

 “Ahh!, they say, “See what Jesus says?  The soul can be destroyed in hell.  Destroyed!  You know what destroyed means?  It means totally gone!  Vanished!”.  Really?  Does being destroyed mean being annihilated? No traces left?  Check the bible.  Was not Babylon destroyed?  Do we not see the ruins of Babylon today?  No, “to destroy” does not mean to annihilate.  What more, they have failed to understand the meaning of destroying the soul in terms of the second death, which is to be cast into the lake of fire!  Satan does not have the power to cast anyone into the lake of fire.  God has.  That is what Mat 10:28 is referring to!

Rev 20:14  And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Tormented for ever and ever

Will a Loving, Merciful and Gracious God Put People Into Permanent Torment in Hell?

Let’s get the 3 facts right first.

Fact 1: The bible clearly says that hell was meant for the devil and his angels.  It was not meant for humans.  But if a man chooses to obey the devil to follow the lusts of his heart, he has chosen to become a follower of the devil.  God is not putting him into hell.  He has chosen to follow the devil into hell.  Why blame God? Is God putting him there?  No. He chose to go there.  It is not even like God is putting a surprise decision that any sinner is going to hell. God has given clear warnings, 1000’s of years of warning.

Fact 2: The first immutable nature of God is holiness.  He is absolutely pure, clean if you will.  If God is unholy, He is not God.  And because of His holiness, God cannot stand sin.  Big sin or small sin does not matter.  Whatever He has revealed to us is a sin is a sin which He will not stand for.

Fact 3: The second immutable nature of God is righteousness.  He is just.  In His righteousness, any transgression is to be punished.  If He does not punish, He is no longer righteous.  He is no longer just. All sins must be punished, to be paid for, so to speak.


Would A Loving God Not Punish?

The fact that God loves does not mean that God does not punish those whom He loves.  If God does not punish, then God is not righteous.  God loves man who is His creation.  Yet God has set the law that the wages of sin is death, the penalty of 2nd death which is in the lake of fire – the destination meant not for man but for the devil and his angels.  And a man who sins shall surely go into the lake of fire together with the devil.  It is God's love for man that makes God warn man what he should not do to avoid going there.  God chides those whom He loves.  It is the love of God that resulted in Him coming into the world as a man to die for His creation; to take the punishment upon Himself so that man whom He loves can be saved.  And if a man chooses ( indeed man chooses ) not to be saved, either out of wickedness or unbelief, it is then not the love of God that sends him there.  God has made a way out for him yet he chooses not to take it.  God has no pleasure in the soul of the wicked that dies.

Eze 18:32  For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye. Eze 33:11  Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked;


The Mercifulness of God

Let us now put to rest the contorted meaning of mercifulness put forward by lustful perverts to convince themselves that a merciful God would not punish.  Mercifulness does not exclude punishment.  Mercifulness softens the impact of the punishment on the offender.  God in His mercy for humans, came into the world Himself and took the punishment for the sins of all men.  God as a man took the stripes of the lashes on His back for sins He did not commit.  God as a man who committed no sin died on the cross on behalf of all sinful men through the ages.  For if God as a man had sinned, He would have died for His own sin only.  God in His mercy paid the penalty, the fine if you will for the transgressions of man.  The punishment has been exacted on Him and God in His mercy extend that gift of carrying your sins and paying for them.  Is that not incomparable mercy?


The Graciousness of God

Do not mistake the graciousness of God to mean that God can ever be unrighteous, unjust and unholy.  The graciousness of God is manifested through His willingness to forgive all and sundry ( regardless of how grave, abominable or disgusting the sin is, not matter how voluminous ) who accept that gift by confessing the sins, asking for His forgiveness and repenting from sinning again.  Is not that graciousness awesome?  All one has to do is to confess and repent and every he is forgiven …. no penalties ( for the penalty has been paid by Jesus Christ ), no fines. All paid for. 


Conclusion

And so, a loving, gracious and merciful God has done everything for the sinning man to NOT go into hell.  All the sinning man has to do is to turn away from his sinning ways and repent and accept the gift of Jesus paying that penalty on his behalf.  Simple.

And scripture confirms that hell fire is everlasting.  You must either find a verse to prove that it is not, or you disbelieve it either because you in your wickedness you think that by not believing it, it will not be everlasting. Either that, or you have been deceived so badly that you cannot comprehend what you read.

And the torment in hell fire is for ever and ever.  You must again prove that it is not by pointing to a verse that says so.  And I will surely say that you cannot find it.

And God is not cruel because God is not sending any human being to hell.  He chooses to follow the devil there.  God is not cruel because God says to the stiff-necked hell-bent sinner that He has no pleasure in the death of the wicked.  He has allowed you free will and a way out of hell.  You chose not to accept it. 

And if you do go into hell for eternal torment, blame yourself and your hell-bent desire to go there.

Jesus says in John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."






Wednesday, April 20, 2011

THE TITHING CON GAME - PART 6


What Makes You Think Malachi's Curse Has Anything To Do With You?


Pastors will any time tell you that you are under the dispensation of grace.  And this is a biblically correct point.

But at the same time, most pastors will subtly preach you back under the law with the 3 famous verses of Malachi 3:8-10.  This is not right.  You cannot be both under law and grace at the same time.

Mal 3:8  Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.  Mal 3:9  Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.  Mal 3:10  Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Preaching these 3 verses naturally put fear into your heart.  Who wants to rob God?  Who wants to be cursed for robbing God?   This fear causes you to try to please God with a  work of the law, ( and all this time you are supposed to be under the dispensation of grace, remember? ),  and of course, with the law comes the curse.  And so, Christians who pay tithes under the commandment of the law usually have no sense of peace because they are continually troubled by these thoughts, e.g. :

  • Have I paid enough?
  • Maybe I should have paid before tax and not after tax?
  • Maybe because I have not calculated all my other income into the tithes?,
  • Oh dear, this month I am really short of money, what will happen to me if I pay less than the 10%?
  • Is Bro Parm Leng more blessed because he has chosen to give 20% instead of 10%? 
  • Should I now pay back the tithes I failed to pay in the last 5 months?
See?  They have no sense of peace - always not knowing if they have actually paid enough.  And this is because they are not paying under truth and grace, but out of fear and greed.    And worse yet, these people must always boast about their tithing and how they are blessed in order to have some consolation.  Now, I know quite a few Christian brothers who had been paying tithes faithfully for years and years, and still fell into bad times.  Do you know a few like them, too?

So what is the truth?

The truth is, you are not under law but grace and the curse of Malachi does not apply to you, and should not apply to you in the beginning.  But it now does, because you have chosen to take on a curse which was never meant for you in the first place!


Why Does The Malachi Curse Not Apply To You?

Let the word of God speak peace back into your heart:

1.      First, in Deu 27:26, Moses put the curse on any Israelite who does not obey all the law, and the Israelites accepted the challenge.

Deu 27:26  Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen 

  • Are you an Israelite under the law? 
  • Did you also say “Amen” to the law?

Surely you didn’t, did you?  So, in the first place the law did not apply to you. It is suppose to be as foreign to you as the syariah law.

But now, you have been subtly led to follow the law with your awareness, and forsaking grace, you have learned to believe and trust in that one law - the law of tithe.  How can you get out of this mess?

So you see, Malachi has nothing to do with you in the first instant.

2.      These verses tell you clearly that the law does not apply to Christians any more, and Malachi’s curse is law! :

Gal 4:21  Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? ( Hey, this is speaking to you! ),

Gal 5:18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. ( I simply love the book of Galatians.  Why are you not being led by the Spirit? )


Gal 3:17  And this I say, that the covenant ( of grace with Abraham ), that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Gal 3:18  For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.  ( Abraham did not have to do anything to receive God’s blessings, you are an heir of Abraham through faith! See Gal 3:29  “And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”  )

Gal 3:19  Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; ( Has the seed come? Of course He has.  So why are they preaching you back under the law again?  Even the Jews who come to Christ do not have to observe the law.  So do you think the apostles were paying tithes in their time, and teaching others to do so? )

Gal 4:4  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law Gal 4:5  To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. ( Do sons pay the temple tax?  See Matt 17:25-27 Peter and the Coin in the fish’s mouth )

Rom 7:6  But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. ( Are you not following the law to the letter when you insist that 10% is the minimum? Where is your newness of spirit in the grace of Christ? )

Gal 5:14  For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. ( If you have fulfilled you car loan, do you still go on making the payments? If you have been giving in love, can there be a law against you for giving more or less? )

Heb 7:12  For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. ( The Aaronic priesthood is no more needed.  He was a Levite to whom the compulsory tithe under law was given.  It is now the priesthood of Melchizedek,  with Jesus as the everlasting priest who receives the voluntary tithe of Abraham, not the tithe under law. )

So, why “cari sakit”? Everywhere in the New Testament you are told not to get entangled with the law again. Therefore, Malachi who was speaking them that were under the law, was proclaiming a curse on the Israelites.  That curse cannot touch you; for you are an heir of Abraham, and your curse has been taken away by Jesus.

3.      And even if you had said “Amen” to the law, these verses promise liberty for you.
Rom 3:24  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: ( Have you been missing out on the significance of the word “ redemption “. Redeemed from what? From sin.  What is sin? Transgression of the law!!  If there is no law, there is no transgression  See 1Jn 3:4 , Rom 4:15 )  

Rom 8:1  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:2  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. ( So why do you continue to feel condemned, unsure and uneasiness off and on when you have been “paying” your tithes? Because you chose to walk after the flesh, not after Christ who has set you free! )

Gal 3:13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: (Since Christ has redeemed you, why walk back into the snare of the law? )

4.      Why do you have no sense of  peace when you pay by the law?:

Gal 2:21  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.  Gal 5:4  Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. ( “fallen from grace”!  This is very serious!  This does not just mean the loss of peace alone.  In my reading, it also means the loss of salvation! OK. I know you believe in the “eternal security” lie. I’ll talk of this topic in a later article. )

Gal 5:3  For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. ( You have no sense of peace because even by faithfully “paying” your tithes { debtors pay, not give },  you are only doing one out of 613 laws; and even then you have been only paid one kind of tithe, and forgotten about the other types  )

Rom 4:15  Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. ( So the choice is yours, has always been yours.  There cannot be transgression when one gives under grace )

Rom 11:6  And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. ( You are supposed to be giving in grace and in love.  When you give in grace and love, you are not supposed to expect more blessings in return, 10-fold returns for your givings!  But you are expecting just that!  You are giving back to God so that you can keep God happy, and hope that He will do more for you – that’s works of the law )

Rom 7:21  I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. (i.e. you would carry out the law with ungodly thoughts like ( just doing a duty, paying tithes in order to get more, viz. doing it out of greed, covetousness )

Gal 3:10  For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them ( see what happens when you are led back to share your blessings by law? You are cursed! )

Jas 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. ( How can you have peace when by keeping that one law of tithe, you have forgotten to do the whole law )

5.      Why do Christians easily get misled back into the law?:

This verse seems to cause confusion both to pastors and believers.  They often interpret this to mean that the law continues to be in force:

Rom 3:31  Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

This misinterpretation has caused them to preach grace and law at the same time, and be unable to explain the dilemma of the doctrinal contradiction.  The New Testament, as we have clearly seen from the above, tells us the law is no longer in force.

What this verse simply means that by doing things through love and grace, the end( the intention, the objective) of law is being achieved meaningfully!  This correct understanding immediately frees the Christian from the bondage of doubts created from the law.   It doesn’t mean we must continue to carry out the demands of the law as an activity.

6.      How will pastors live if we do not tithe?:
The bible says that we must ensure the workers of the gospel always have enough to eat.

1Co 9:9  For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

The problem that arises this days is the ox wants more than it can eat!  I have heard of a pastor in the Kuala Lumpur area who wants to play golf so that he can reach out to the rich.  Well, hmmm.  Very telling, isn’t it.


7.      What else is not right about the preaching of the Malachi verses to Christians?
Observe these:
a)     Chapter 1 tells you Malachi was sent to speak to Israel, not Christians, 

Mal 1:1  The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi
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The message is this:  God was reminding Israel how He loved Israel more than Edom, yet Israel does not love him back. Why does Israel not honor God, as animals  They were not showing respect to God.  This has nothing to do with you.


b)     Chapter 2 tells you that the priests were the offenders, not you:

Mal 2:1  And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

The Lord was scolding the priest for dereliction of duty, causing people to stumble instead of teaching what is right ( reminds of what the pastors today are doing ).  Then the Lord was scolding the Israelites for marrying foreign wives, and divorcing their wives ( reminds me of the Christians today who divorce for every type of reason ).

c)     Chapter 3 tells you of God’s prophecy that He is sending a servant to restore everything to what it was before.

Mal 3:1  Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts

Here, notice the Lord was telling the Israelites to return to Him and honor him.  Notice that the Israelites deny dishonoring God, and in response God told them to look at how they are already cursed for not bringing the Lord His tithes and offering.

This is where you have failed to read the message properly and allowed yourselves to be misled:

" But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Mal 3:8  Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.  Mal 3:9  Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.  Mal 3:10  Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.


a)     As explained, the Israelites said “amen” to the curses that will come on them if they do not obey the law.  They did not.  And they had already been cursed by God by this time.  So they were not asked to tithe for future blessings.  They were asked to tithe in order to get back their blessings which had been stopped.
b)     Observe that “Bring the whole tithe to my storehouse” indicates:
                                                              i.      The tithes were not money.  Money is not stored in storehouses.  Money is stored in treasury rooms.
                                                            ii.      Where was the storehouse?  It was in the temple.  Where is the temple today?  Your body is the temple of God. So where is storehouse today?  It is surely not the church.
                                                          iii.      “Test me in this” does not refer to new and future blessings.  It refers to blessings that was stopped because God had already closed the windows of heaven.

And so you see how easily scriptures are twisted and misinterpreted to suit unholy motives.  And you should see how you, in your covetousness for future blessings, allowed yourselves to be misled.  You are all children of Abraham through faith.  When did God ever shut off your blessings through Abraham?

Conclusion
The bible is clear.  You either choose grace or law.  You cannot be under both.  The preacher cannot preach application of both at the same time.

Your greed has allow you to be led into the snare of the law.  Get out of it now.

Do not muzzle the ox that tread the mill.  Continue to give to make sure that your pastor and his family do not suffer from lack.  If he can teach and act as elder at the same time, the bible says he is worth double.

But do not tithe under the system of Moses’ law.  Malachi’s curse has nothing to do with you.

That’s the unpleasant truth – you have been lazy to read the scriptures.

Joh 8:32  And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.