Sunday, August 07, 2011

Rick Warren - The Gay Movement Supporter



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Rick Warren does not read the bible.  He does not know that God clearly condemns the perverted act of sodomy, as seen in the record of Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah, or these verses:

  • 1Co 6:9  Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
    1Co 6:10  nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God
    .

But it also appears the entire institutionalized church system has been so compromised by the "judge not" preaching, that few are willing to speak out against false teachers and church preachers like him, whose public stand against scripturally-condemned sins can at best be called ambivalent.  Many churches are in fact still in the blur, like the Chinese language service of the Full Gospel Assembly which I attend.  The Chinese Church still promotes the books of Rick Warren on the projector screen week in week out!  That goes to show that the church leaders and pastors are "blur blur".

Should we promote the books of a man who does not dare to speak out against homosexuality?             

We can be sure that Rick Warren is not ignorant of these bible verses.
  • Gal 5:19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,  Gal 5:20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,Gal 5:21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 
  •  Eph 5:5  For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Eph 5:6  Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience
  • Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 
It is just too inconvenient for him to stand by them.  He is afraid of being condemned by his own "politically-correct" congregation, and fears losing members! You see, in USA and the West, church and Christianity is not about being saved and living a holy life for God after that.  It is a membership business.

Has Malaysian churches also caught on with the "membership numbers first" game?  Has Malaysia become so politically-correct about sexual perversion as well?  For a fact, we are surely moving in that direction, for Malaysians are of "everything USA do must be correct, so we follow" mindset ( just look at how we ape the TV programs, fashionwear etc ).  But for now, we should still be some distance off from USA on this matter, so why can't Malaysian churches stand up for God's standards as these Ugandan pastors?  Are Malaysian churches all sleeping, or too compromised with false teachings and being politcally-correct to dare to speak out, like people in glass houses do not throw stones?  Here, read this for yourself.  I had circulated it to my home cell members some time ago:

Mon, Dec. 21 2009 03:15 PM EDT

Uganda Pastors Chide Rick Warren; Defend Anti-Gay Bill


Pastors in Uganda recently chided evangelical pastor Rick Warren after he urged them to speak out against the country's Anti-Homosexuality bill.

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A group of 20 denominational heads recently formed the Uganda National Pastors Task Force Against Homosexuality and demanded that Warren "biblically issue an apology for having wronged us."

"Your letter has caused great distress and the pastors are demanding that you issue a formal apology for insulting the people of Africa by your very inapropriate (sic) bully use of your church and purpose driven pulpits to coerse us into the 'evil' of Sodomy and Gaymorrah (sic)," the pastors, which include Martin Ssempa, state in a letter emailed to Warren.

They also note, "As you yourself have said, '..the Bible says evil has to be opposed. Evil has to be stopped. The Bible does not say negotiate with evil. It says stop it. Stop evil'. (12/2007) Since homosexuality is evil, you cannot possibly be against a law that seeks to stop it unless you have misunderstood it."

Warren, who works with pastors in Uganda on the "Purpose Driven" campaign and P.E.A.C.E. Plan, had addressed Ugandan pastors in a video earlier this month. He condemned the criminalization of homosexuality, particularly the death penalty as proposed in Uganda's proposed legislation, and called it unjust and un-Christian.

The Purpose Driven pastor was among a number of U.S. religious leaders who expressed opposition and concern over the bill.
But Ugandan pastors state in their letter to Warren that the bill has been "greatly misrepresented by some homosexual activists causing hysteria."

They stress that the proposed death penalty applies only in special cases termed "aggravated homosexuality," which include those convicted of unlawful homosexual rape of a child or handicapped invalid.

"This is a conviction of paedophilles!" they exclaim, noting that the country has for 15 years had a death penalty in place for those who sexually abuse a girl under the age of 18 years. The proposed measure simply extends the protection to boys, they say.

Attempting to clarify what they believe is misinformation regarding the Anti-Homosexuality bill, the pastors task force says the proposed requirement that people report offenses of homosexuality was included because of high levels of unreported heterosexual/homosexual rape and harassment especially in single-sex schools. School officials and some police officers "maintain a conspiracy of silence" and ignore the pleas of the children and victims who report such crimes, the task force points out.

Many, including Warren, had criticized the bill for placing "everybody" at risk – including parents, teachers, landlords, doctors, media and religious leaders who provide counseling to someone struggling with their sexuality, work with those infected with HIV/AIDS, or do not report an offense within 24 hours of knowledge.

Warren believes it would hurt the church ministry of caring for people with HIV/AIDS. Out of fear of being reported, those infected would be reluctant to seek care or comfort from churches, the southern California pastor pointed out.

Homosexuality is already illegal in Uganda and can be punished with life imprisonment. But the anti-homosexuality legislation was designed to "fill the gaps" in the provisions of existing laws and "strengthen the nation's capacity to deal with emerging internal and external threats to the traditional heterosexual family."

And so the Lord says in John 8:32 " And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free"



3 comments:

  1. That is why i stop going to FGA.....long time ago.

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  2. Thank u Wang for your input.

    Unfortunately many of these brothers and sisters in Christ ARE the aforesaid church itself...to still keep in contact with them is to stay back in the church differing only in the physical location of the brick and mortar church.

    I never stop my love for God, though at times lagging, but I still seek God daily but honestly I do not believe in church "system" anymore. I do believe in the church as the body of believers in Christ. So my prayer is more along the line of God pls help me find the true seekers of You (doesn't matter have a brick & mortar building or not) that i can join ...not the 'Christian members' kinda of "brothers and sisters"....who seek after God...-and-also-others. You get what I mean....

    Btw, seeking God ,(I may be wrong, pls do correct me IF so, ) in my opinion is not just time set apart for prayer and bible, etc.It is more than that, I believe is a reflection EVERY waking moment is what we do measuring up to Bible standard. Having a clear conscience before God is more important to appear 'like a good Christian' in church. Perhaps I've played church too long...I'm a bit tired of it. Church sometimes can be a very lonely place.....if u don't play by "the rules".

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    1. You are obviously a spiritually-matured believer and I agree with you that:
      1) The church is not and has never been the brick and mortar structure. Unfortunately it has fully hijacked the meaning of the word "church", and believers often find it difficult to differentiate the true church from that structure.

      2) Having said so, even among and within the true body of Christ, there are imperfect people who continue to be sensitive and be easily hurt, and those who are insensitive who cause hurt, even though unintentionally. This is where we must be temperate and continue in fellowship with the grace of God. If we are perfect, we would not fit any church anyway. The problem goes with us to every church. And,

      3) God is a Spirit, and we are to worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. The time has come when men will not worship Him in Jerusalem or on Gerazim hill. That's in book of John. Always put God 1st in all that we do, and love Him with all your heart, soul and strength. Neither forget loving your neighbors, which requires us to fellowship and offer support in the face of the adversities in the body of Christ, not run away from it.

      May God bless you abundantly with His grace and peace.

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